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This all turned out to be wrong, read the last post. GO GO.

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Just try to knock off say 15-30 seconds each day, doesn't sound like much at all, but that is the point. Going 15 seconds faster than yesterday won't be hard, will it? A month from now, you will have knocked minutes off your time.

Then, say in a month, get some steel toed work shoes (the kind people in factories wear) run with those for a week, then get a backpack and add a pound or two every couple of days. It doesn't happen overnight.


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6mins for 1.5miles is pushing it slightly don't you think? 6minute/miles is achievable. I need 11mins/1.5miles myself.

as to Jinn's suggestion of safety boots, it'd be better to splash out on some decent combat boots (not sure where to find $250 though)

It shouldn't take any more than 3 months of moderate training to be ready for whatever training course 3RAR run(would've said 4RAR but somebody told me they don't exist anymore).

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They sell vests with addable weight to them. Like 1-5lb sand bags, and multiple pockets. I think you can add up to like 50 lbs.
That would be a good way

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lol 7 minutes for a 2.4k... would be hard enough without boots. Best of luck, but i'd make a more realistic goal of 9 minutes

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Running 3km in 9 mins is really good already, best of luck! I'd suggest doing something like stuff suggested, you could just grab a backpack and throw some weights in there (10kg-20kg). (Make sure you get the weights padded well or your back will be fucked for weeks.)
Also do what Jinn said. Try gaining like 15 secs / time and you'll be running like a black man in no time!

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Dunno if 15 secs is possible to gain EVERY day. Already I feel like spewing when I'm done.

PS. I'm not up to 9 minutes // 3 km yet. That's my goal in about a month. Apparently I should be expecting to carry 40KG packs in the field (depending on the roll) + anywhere from 30L++ in water too.

@Demi. I didn't end up going for 3RAR. I'm doing Rifleman instead. I totally took the easy way out lol.

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From personal experience, I'd suggest you start training with eg 10kg on your back, after a few weeks move up to eg 20 etc. Move up slowly. In the beginning the 10kg will feel like a fuckload, but you get used to it quite quick, after a while the 40kg wont feel suicidal anymore.
Also, running eg. 3km depends surprisingly much on your mentality. With the same physical ability 2 people can "max" 3km, one in 9 mins and the other in 12, just depending on how set they are to complete each km in a certain amount of time.

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should've gone 3rar to be winrar

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you know whats good for running? cigarettes.

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Splice wrote:

you know whats good for running? cigarettes.

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Jinn wrote:

Just try to knock off say 15-30 seconds each day, doesn't sound like much at all, but that is the point. Going 15 seconds faster than yesterday won't be hard, will it? A month from now, you will have knocked minutes off your time.

Then, say in a month, get some steel toed work shoes (the kind people in factories wear) run with those for a week, then get a backpack and add a pound or two every couple of days. It doesn't happen overnight.

wtf?? ever heard of ankle weights?

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Lol, so it turns out that my course that I thought was 2KM was actually only 1.6KM (mapped it in my car with the odometer). I'm actually closer to 8minutes/2KM (4minute per KM) lol.

It's actually turned out to be a bit of a motivation, I was about to extend my route at the end of the week anyway so I just did extended it last night instead. Totally took the shit out of me, but was mad as.

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did u get molested yet?

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Akari wrote:

Lol, so it turns out that my course that I thought was 2KM was actually only 1.6KM (mapped it in my car with the odometer). I'm actually closer to 8minutes/2KM (4minute per KM) lol.

It's actually turned out to be a bit of a motivation, I was about to extend my route at the end of the week anyway so I just did extended it last night instead. Totally took the shit out of me, but was mad as.

Now you just gotta work it harder baby!!

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Well it turned out again the odometer in my car was wrong AGAIN when I quoted the above distance. I was only going 1.2km rofl in about 6 minutes (makes a whole lot more sense looking back on it)

Since the last post I'm now doing 2.8km in 15 minutes. For the record though probably about 25/30% of the distance is on a mild positive incline and anyone who runs knows that going up a hill is far more taxing then the slight reprieve you get from going back down it. I also do a 600 meter warmup walk / 600 meter warmdown walk which is up/down a very steep hill, I'm actually slightly out of breath when I get to the very top, from where I begin the actual run.

I know I'm still FAR from a decent speed or time but the fact that I'm still pretty happy with the fact that I've doubled my distance I'm doing in just a month. This is all after literally 6 or so years of a zero exercise lifestyle.

PS. If anyone's interested I'll take my mobile phone with me tomorrow when I go running again and I'll record the hill I walk up as the warmup to show that for a fatty like me it's pretty steep.

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well just stick at it like you're doing and keep pushing yourself.

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I'll give you a call!

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ZtUPid0 wrote:

I'll give you a call!

I'll pass you through to the hair growth hotline. LOLOLOLOLOL.

Anyway, today I added another 300 or so meters to my journey. Took me 16 minutes 30 seconds or so (Actually was 16 minutes 50 seconds but I took 20 off because I got held up due to a car pulling out of a driveway that I had to wait for it to move)

Anyway I'm either going 3.2km or 3.6km, depending on if you classify my warmup power walk up the hill as actual distance. Either way I'm averaging between 12/13 Km per hour (A bit over 8 miles per hour)

I'm now in the habit of doing the same distance 3 times in a row (Jogging every second day) then the 4th time I'll add around 200 or 300 meters more and repeat.

End of February I should be up to 5Km I hope smile

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"End of February I should be up to 5Km I hope"

Christ was I ever wrong. I took a week off before going to NZ last month, then I didn't do any actual running in NZ, then when I got back It took me over 2 weeks to get back into jogging, so now I've only been going again for just about 2 weeks.

I'm back up to around 3Km in 14 minutes though which isn't too bad. Though I'm not even close to my mark of 5km//20minutes by the end of Feb I had set for myself when I started sad

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when do you join the army when you join you'll get fit or you'll quit because you don't like the phys

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Brick Tamland wrote:

when do you join the army when you join you'll get fit or you'll quit because you don't like the phys

Army is a no go, I withdrew about a month ago.

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ok sorry, if you want to run faster you should look into doing intervals and fartlek both are more 'fun' than running a 3k 3 times a week

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Brick Tamland wrote:

ok sorry, if you want to run faster you should look into doing intervals and fartlek both are more 'fun' than running a 3k 3 times a week

Intervals, as in HIIT? I'm not really looking to run faster, really the only reason I'm running anymore (it started as a preparation for the Army) is because I'm still very unhealthy. I really don't have any motivation to eat healthy, this is due to the fact I constantly procrastinate about getting into shape and it's coupled with the fact I no longer have an income which means buying fresh fruit and veg regularly and good cuts of meat is really difficult.

As I understand it HIIT is really more for people looking to lose weight, it doesn't contribute too much towards increasing your endurance.

I think I'll stick to what I'm currently/was doing. That is, running the same distance 3 times and then increasing it by a few hundred meters on the next trip, and repeat. You're right though, it's very VERY boring. I've tried listening to music when I run but I find it more of an annoyance then a distraction due to the fact I normally only listen to music to mellow out and relax (And when I used to drive to work at 11:45 at night I'd have it pumping to give me a boost and wake me up).

I've never heard of fartlek though. I'll google it now.

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So fartlek does appear to be like HIIT, only slightly more varied. That is to say that with HIIT you normally do 2 things, slow recovery speed, and intense speed.

But yeah, I don't see either of these things really making my running more enjoyable. I don't so much get tired of the actual running as I just get mentally bored. The first few times running you enjoy the scenery, but that gets old quick.

Cheers for the ideas though.

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